My continuing battle with 1and1′s fraudulent activities…
After creating all of those posts yesterday, I sent a notice to all of those 1and1 email addresses inviting them to visit this blog and read all about it. It appears that struck a nerve with at least one 1and1 employee. Here is what I received today:
Dear Brian Gothard, (Cust: XXXXXXXX)
Thank you for contacting us.
The balance that was released to collections was for the January invoice and not for the invoice that was refunded.
If you have any further questions do not hesitate to contact us.
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Sincerely
Brett Neally
Billing Department
1&1 Internet Inc.
Of course, since he was responding to an email I sent that said exactly that, I replied:
Yeah, that’s what I SAID!
The January invoice IS FRAUD!
FIX IT!
His response:
Dear Brian Gothard, (Cust: XXXXXXXX)
Thank you for contacting us.
I’ve looked extensively through your case history and this is what we are willing to do. You previously sent an email with a PDF attachment for domains you wanted to cancel. Please reply back to this email with that list as plain text. We will then forward a case to have those domains removed from your account. We will then pull the balance from NCO financial and wipe it from our systems. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused and we will work to try to resolve this issue.
If you have any further questions do not hesitate to contact us.
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Sincerely
Brett Neally
Billing Department
1&1 Internet Inc.
And my retort:
This is the 17th time I have submitted this exact same list. By fax, by email, as an attachment, with and without signatures, to David Rubel, Damien Son, John Keefer, Complaints, Support, Billing, the BBB, the FTC, and whoever else I could find. It is even posted several times at http://RippedOffConsumers.org.
But I will jump through yet another hoop.
And by the way, the way you phrased your response offends me. I should hope you would be willing to correct your own errors. I did not create this problem, 1and1 did, by screwing up the transfer for over a month in the first place and not granting me the ability to cancel these domains until almost a month later, then refusing to fix it in a reasonable time frame. As you see below, I have been trying to get this fixed since January 10. Your fellow employees have lied to me and given me the runaround for 2 1/2 months. So thank you for being willing to do what should have been done in January. I hope you mean it.
Then I pasted the January 10 email that I sent trying to fix this that included exactly the text list he is now requesting. Remember, I have sent that same list over twenty times, in half a dozen formats. Damion Son even made me print, sign, and fax it several weeks ago. But now they need ANOTHER copy of it, even after he “looked extensively through your case history”.
I am not slamming Mr. Neally, yet. He seems to genuinely want to make me go away. I don’t get the impression he is actually sorry it happened, or even surprised, just that he wants me to shut up and go away.
And finally, at 2:18 PM CST today, I received this:
Dear Brian Gothard, (Cust: XXXXXXXX)
Thank you for contacting us.
Thank you for replying with this information. A case has been escalated to remove the account and balance from NCO financial. Please allow a few business days for this balance to be removed. I apologize it has take so long to resolve this issue.
If you have any further questions do not hesitate to contact us.
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Sincerely
Brett Neally
Billing Department
1&1 Internet Inc.
Now, that appears promising. It is ironic that as I was reading this email message my phone rang. Caller ID said NCO Financial. I let the machine get it.
Mr. Neally has made promises that I only half expect to happen, just based on history. I will have to wait and see.
But, as of right now:
1) My account is still locked, denying me access to the 235 domains I still have registered there that were never in question. (I now make sure to move them to a competent registrar before they expire.)
His message does not address when my account will once again be made available to me.
2) The January invoice has still not been credited, revised, or removed. It still shows as “Payment declined”.
When I faxed the signed invoice corrections at Damion Son’s request the credit was issued within hours. I will let you know.
3) There is still a Late Fee of $18.95 showing on my account.
Although every email message I get has some form of apology in it, I do not feel apologized to, if you know what I mean. I feel more like they are apologizing for getting caught than out of any real concern for the hours I have spent trying to get them to correct their own errors. Please excuse my language, but I do not feel like anyone at 1and1 gives a damn about me or the problems they have caused.
I understand that companies make mistakes. It cannot be helped. But when they first of all refuse to acknowledge the error, then try to blame it on the customer, then continue to antagonize that customer at every turn, that company does not deserve to be in business.
1and1 is just not reliable, ethical, or competent.
Check out why the Pennsylvania Better Business Bureau has given 1and1 their lowest rating “F.”
“Customer Complaint History
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The company’s size, volume of business and number of transactions may have a bearing on the number of complaints received by the BBB. The complaints filed against a company may not be as important as the type of complaints, and how the company has handled them. The BBB generally does not pass judgment on the validity of complaints filed.
Number of complaints processed by the BBB
in the last 36 months: 691
in the last 12 months: 276”
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DO NOT USE 1AND1. They is the worst. They will send you to a collections agency, even when it’s their fault.
The problem is in cancellation of domains. Their system is very complicated and if you don’t cancel following their myriad steps you will receive a bill for auto-renewal of the domains. 1and1 renews the domains first, then charges you. If you don’t pay, they will threaten you with a debt collection agency.
I tried to cancel some 20 something domains but because I didn’t confirm it by an email link, 1and1 charged me and wants to threaten me with a debt collector. They never sent the email to complete confirmation, and a rep said that sometimes the email doesn’t come.
No other domain registrar has such a convoluted system of canceling auto-renewal, which no doubt, benefits 1and1.
I’m reporting them to BBB soon.
1AND1 SUCKS AND THEY ARE ILLEGALLY DOING THEIR BUSINESS AND TRYING TO DECEIVE AND RIPPING OFF THE CUSTOMERS. IF ANYBODY CAN SEND THEM TO JAIL, I WILL BE VERY HAPPY.
BE AWARE OF THE RIPPERS AND STAY AWAY FROM 1AND1. THEY ARE NOT FAIR… DON’T FALL INTO THEIR LOOP… 1&1 SUCKS AND NOT FAIR TO DO ANY BUSINESS. READ THE INTERNET POSTS BEFORE ANYBODY TRYING TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM… DON’T… DON’T EVER DO BUSINESS WITH 1&1.
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I came across this site while searching for info that would help with a tag change that I am waiting for 1and1 to carry out. I wanted to know if anybody else had the same problems and it appears that we are not alone! I really sympathise with you as I have suffered the same ineptitude from 1and1. It is impossible to get a response from anybody within the company; nobody takes responsibility for their mistakes. This is not the first mess that 1and1 have caused me but it will hopefully be the last. I am in the process of transferring the remaining 200+ domains away from 1and1 to a new registrar. I can’t cope with the hassle that their incompetence causes. In the past they have billed me incorrectly many £100′s for domains that were not due renewal. Their latest screw up is their inability to change a tag for me. I have been waiting for 1 week for them to carry this out and my emails to them for an update go unanswered. Their 1st line phone support is unable to help, telling me that the case has been escalated to their back office admins but they can not provide a reason for the delay. I would not recommend 1and1 to anybody. My only advice to anybody having problems with 1and1 is once you get the problem sorted; LEAVE THEM as fast as you can! If they don’t reply to you try copying your emails to their CEO Andreas Gauger. One of these email addresses should get to him: andreas@gauger.de; andreas.gauger@1and1.co.uk; andreas.gauger@1and1.de;